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i didn't say that. i mean, i will tell you, i didn't say that. there would be nothing wrong if i did. >> one of them is lying. >> you would be willing to speak under oath to give your version -- >> 100%. >> a he said/she said situation. both guys say the other one is lying. >> when will you tell us? >> over a short period of time. you will be disappointed when you hear the answer. >> enough is enough. >> demanding to know. >> he's a leaker.
we want to get back to running our great country. >> it's good to be sitting here knowing you are there with us. good morning to you. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor. >> president trump is spending the weekend at his new jersey golf club. the war of words, however, is in full swing. the president firing back at james comey after the blockbuster testimony on capitol hill. listen to this. >> no collusion. no obstruction. he's a leaker. but, we want to get back to running our great country. >> now lawmakers are demanding those memos, the tapes, if there are any and records of president trump's conversations with comey. they want them by june 23rd and that is not all. senator dianne feinstein is asking the judiciary committee
to investigate potential obstruction of justice. >> let's bring in brian noble, scott, kelly torren, joey jackson, cnn legal analyst and tom. thank you for being with us. ryan, i want to start with you first because the president is taking on that defiant tone we heard, accusing comey of perjury. help us look ahead. what is next in the investigation? >> it seems both intelligence committees on the house and senate side want to get clarification about this game of he said/she said between the president and fbi director, james comey. the crux about the version of what took place in their conversations is whether or not the president directed james comey to end the investigation into michael flynn.
james comey said he felt that is exactly what the president was asking him to do. yesterday, in his press conference, the president said the exact opposite. take a listen. >> so, he said those things under oath. would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version? >> 100%. i hardly know the man, i'm not going to say, i want you to pledge allegiance. who would do that? who would ask a man to pledge allegiance under oath. i hardly know the man, it doesn't make sense. >> if robber mueller wanted to speak with you? >> i would be glad to tell him what i told you. >> their version of events couldn't be more dimpb. now, do the tapes exist? the president alluding to the fact in a tweet a couple weeks ago. he will not say whether the tapes exist. the house intelligence committee is demanding an answer to that. they have sent a letter to the
white house council, asking for the tapes by june 23rd, which is less than two weeks away. will they get a response from the white house on this? obviously, the president has been pressed on this a number of times and refuses to provide insight. if the tapes were revealed, james comey wants to hear them. >> thank you so much, appreciate it. >> there is so much to talk about that brian just brought up. let's get to the panel. let me start with kelly. president trump says he will give more information on the tapes, shortly. but what really happens if there are no tapes? it seems like then you have two men with two different stories. >> exactly. you know, i think president trump, if there are no tapes, he will claim, and he's right, in his tweet, comey better hope there aren't tapes. he can probably claim, i did not state there are tapes.
it's a simple question. as ryan pointed out, he has not been able to answer it, despite being asked multiple times. i'm skeptical there are in. >> is it he can't answer it or he's sort of playing a tease with us? >> well, you know, president trump loves to do that. he loves to tease the media, which he alluded to in the clip saying you are going to be disappointed with the answer. i don't think that we have or will be disappointed or not, the american people want to know, are there tapes or not. can we get to the bottom of it or can't we? >> on that note, joey, are these notes that comey says -- we know he has, are those evidence enough to override a he said/he said situation? does he win if he has the
points? >> good morning. the answer is no. there are no automatics at all. let's talk about what the notes mean. certainly, they are compelling. why do i say that? when ever you have a document prepared close in time to the event that took place, it brings about more credibility. if you look at the seven-page memo produced in his testimony, he was writing notes in the jeep right after, right in the truck after he left the meeting with trump. if they are close in time, they are compelling. having said that, there is nothing like a recording. the recording brings us there. even in notes, you are relying upon your version of the events. we all can be at an encounter and describe things in a different way. why those notes are important, they seem to otherwise memorialize and capture the essence and significance of the exchange. i certainly, if there were
recordings would love to see them. i am a skeptic. i doubt the recordings exist. >> eugene, we heard the president say as he did boldly yesterday, he is willing, 100% under oath to give testimony. do you think that ever is really going to happen? do you think he truly would agree to be deposed by special council, robert mueller? >> i would be surprised if he follows through. one, this is a president who said he will do things and has not always followed through. he will likely change his mind, perhaps or has the right to change his mind. i also believe his personal council could discourage him from doing that. testifying before a panel will open him up to questions he may not want to answer. he can find himself saying things and sharing information that can lead to further questions he wasn't prepared to answer. >> tom?
you have your assistant director for the fbi. how does the fbi feel about james comey right now? >> well, i don't know. the aftermath of this, the few people i have talked to at fbi headquarters and retired agents are very upset with this testimony, feel he's brought political shame on the bureau and that -- >> what specifically did they feel brought that shame? >> well, his emotional responses. when he testified at the hearing, he felt nauseous and now, when he talks about his encounters with loretta lynch and donald trump, he talks about himself being cowardly. if he had been stronger and all of that. for most of us career agents, especially the agents that, on occasion faced death and bodily harm, they don't want to hear their director saying i'm not that strong, i should have stood up and done a number of things
differently. there's a lot of consternation about those comments. >> paul ryan pointed out and other conservatives have come to the president's side saying trump is just new to all of this. he wasn't really trying to interfere with an investigation by comey, but that, you know, he was saying, hey, you know, is there a way to see that maybe dropping this investigation? in other words, that was trump the businessman, not the politician and president. no, you don't talk to the fbi that way. >> that's an interesting question. isn't paul ryan saying -- when he says that, admitting donald trump might have talked about michael flynn and asked james comey to talk about letting that go. that's the one interesting thing we have from trump's lawyer's statement after comey's testimony. he disputes the fact he told comey, i hope you can let it go. he admits trump didn't bring up
michael flynn and said he's a good guy. how is michael flynn doing? it looks bad if you are bringing up a man under investigation, even if he didn't say i hope you can let it go. the fact he is talking alone with the fbi director and bringing up a man under investigation with the fbi. just the hint alone is there. i think it's -- again, the accountability is damming. trump is going to say i brought up michael flynn, but i didn't mean anything by it. it's a tough argument to make. >> you can't have it both ways. stick around. we have a lot more to discuss after the break. >> president trump claiming james comey's testimony vindicated him. risky rush to judgment? we are going to talk about that next. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream.
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is james comey lying, the statements vindicate him in the russian probe. i want to bring up eugene scott. the president wants to get back to business running the country. that's what he was -- that's what he was trying to do. that's what he was elected to do. that was the point. i'm getting word eugene lost isp. he cannot hear what i'm saying right now. joey, let me send this to you. what is -- actually, tom. i want to send this to you. when we talk about getting back to business, getting back to policy, how much of this investigation is going to thwart whatever policy the president tried to promise to his constituents, the people that voted for him. how distracting, at the end of the day, is this going to be to getting things done? >> as we have seen since he took
office in january, it's been very distracting. that is why the president has been so frustrated. i took it that much of the communication with comey wasn't just take care of my friends, to me, it was along the lines of all this is hanging over my head, a cloud over the administration. you are telling me i'm not under investigation. you have told me multiple times. what is taking so long and why can't you say it publicly and remove the crowd? you have members of congress calling for his impeachment. so much smoke and fire somewhere. you had the media all over it for months. i think, if the president wants, you know, the fbi to expedite this thing, whether you charge somebody or you don't, you have said i'm not under investigation. get this done so we can move on. i think that it has been a distract. if you see the attention in the media and on the hill that's
been devoted to this issue, of course it's preventing other things from being discussed and contemplated. >> kelly, let me ask you this. is this the time, perhaps, when republicans, someone else, needs to step up here, whether it be, you know, paul ryan speaker or somebody like mitch mcconnell here to sort of bring this party forward at the same time the president is on suspicion. >> that's an interesting question. there is a leadership vacuum, in a way. president trump is not talking very much about policies and, yeah, this investigation has been distracting. let's face it, president trump is his own worst enemy. he, himself, brought a lot of this on himself by tweeting about it. i mean, when we have had the hearing, was this the only thing or almost the only thing washington has been talking about for the last week if he
hadn't fired james comey, then said he is firing them because of the russian investigation? he brought this upon himself. i'm sure, republicans in congress are frustrated. they would love to be spending their time to get work done. some are, of course. it is difficult when all eyes on washington are on the intelligence committees and they have to prepare statements and deal with this problem. you know, president trump is saying something seems new about it. every few days. they have to keep up with that. that is distracting from other policy work. >> it's distracting, but eugene, i understand you can hear us now? >> yes. >> i want to read a headline in l.a. times. while you watched comey, senate gop moved to health care. senate majority leader invoted senate 14 which allows them to bypass the committee and brought to the floor. they are going to bypass hearings and debates. what is being done?
help us understand what policy is being addressed behind the scenes as all of this investigative information is coming to life? >> one thing that is being addressed is the meeting that donald trump had with republican lawmakers earlier this week, just the day before the hearing involving james comey, he proposed another idea in terms of how to build a border wall. we are seeing, as you mentioned, republican lawmakers make strides in ways to help the senate actually pass the bill that everyone thought would die in the house. there are always concerns and people looking at ways to revisit versions of the travel ban that could be more receptive in courts. so, one thing that i think a lot of democratic lawmakers have been concerned and frustrated about is that these investigations would occupy so
much of the american public's attention so those they counted on to advocate for left leaning policies would not be able to pay attention to what is actually happening in congress. >> so, in other words, there are people who believe this distraction of the investigation is actually serving republicans in some way? >> very much so. what's interesting, when we talk about whether or not the white house can advocate for that, the reality is, that's kind of their responsibility. we know they are short a communications director. we know their main press secretary, sean spicer is frequently embattled, it seems. the reality is, if you want your people to know what you are doing, we have so many devices and ways to communicate that to them such as social media and trump friendly media as well. >> this is all part of what we have been talking about here, whether it is a distraction or can work to benefit republicans.
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>> independent special prosecutor, bob mueller appears to be paying close attention, no surprise there. mueller recruited deputy solicitor michael dreeben. he is a top criminal law expert who argued more than 100 cases before the supreme court. the addition to mueller's team signals they might be looking at the obstruction of justice caused by the president. >> attorney general, jeff sessions is set to testify next week about the justice department's budget. one topic almost certain to come up is the relationship with the russian ambassador to the u.s. >> it came from comey. sources said comey told them sessions may have had a third, undisclosed meeting with sergey
si ki kislyak. we have the details on that. >> the embattled attorney general facing scrutiny as he's about to be grilled on capitol hill and his interactions with russians. they revealed in a closed door briefing, sessions may have had a closed door meeting with kislyak. comey alluded to it earlier in his public testimony. >> we are aware of facts i can't discuss in an open setting that makes his continued engagement problematic. >> reporter: it took place april 27, 2016 at the mayflower hotel in washington. that's where donald trump was delivering his first foreign policy address. they learned about the encounter may have been exaggerated. a spokesperson said the meeting
never happened. if it did, senator richard blumenthal said it could put sessions in legal jeopardy. >> denied, possibly in violation of the law. >> could be perjury? >> could be perjury. >> a source close to sessions says president trump and the attorney general have been at odds. the tension sparked after sessions stepped aside from the russian investigation in march. >> i never recused myself in the matters that deal with the trump campaign. >> reporter: that came after the attorney general admitted he failed to disclose at the confirmation to meetings that happened. the justice department maintained it was solely because of his relationship with the trump campaign. that left the president livid, according to a source. at one point, sessions offered to resign. the president knows accepting that resignation would ignite
another fire storm. >> are you going to resign? >> that was jessica schneider reporting. let's bring back the panel. kelly jane torrens, joey jackson, tom fuentes and former fbi director. eugene, to you. if, indeed, sessions did have a third meeting, what does it mean for him politically? >> this is another example of the attorney general engaging in some type of interaction with russia he did not reveal. it brings questions about his integrity up for people that trusted what he said and the hearing was actually true. he's been found to have left out information, already, from that time before lawmakers. this will raise another red flag. what's much more interesting to
pay attention is what this is saying about the relationship between sessions and donald trump. the president, i think, as jessica reported is aware he does not have a lot of room on his plate for another controversy. if this ends up being one of those, the future of attorney general sessions is up for question. >> kelly, i want to listen to senator blumenthal here. sessions is emerging as a key figure in the russian probe. listen to what he said. >> what we have here is a pattern. i can't confirm what may have been in a classified setting, but with a third meeting and even without it, what we have is a pattern of contacts with the russians by flynn, by sessions, but kushner, secret, then concealed. >> do you think attorney general sessions will be attorney general sessions if he's going to stay in that job? >> he's emerging more and more as a key figure here.
>> how key, kelly? not just for the independent investigation, but the criminal investigation? >> he was smart, by the way, to recuse himself relatively early on. it's strange that the president -- that's why he's angry with the attorney general because he had no choice. if he hadn't, he would be in much more trouble than now. what's interesting is, comey gave this information in a closed door hearing. we know what he said, it wasn't very closed door. apparently, they don't have evidence, they don't have proof attorney general sessions had this third meeting. they think he did, but no proof. it's going to come down to a he said/he said thing, perhaps. the main point is, it looks bad if you have trump officials who met with the russian ambassador and other officials and somehow forgot about them and didn't
mention them. this is the ambassador to, you know, perhaps america's biggest rival in the world. how would you possibly forget such a meeting? it kind of blows the mind to think it's possible. >> i listened to comey as he talked about the attorney general and the way he spoke, obviously, made you feel like there is a lot more to this. then he said, i can't talk about it. this, again, seems to go to comey and the way he is speaking publicly about things that maybe should remain semi under investigation before you speak about them because it is damming against the attorney general, even the implication. >> appears comey is trying to get even with everybody, the president and attorney general sessions and drop these inewe wen does that get blown out. referred to as a meeting. did they speak to each other at this meeting? it was a public event, you know?
i can tell you, when i went through every five years, the reinvestigation to maintain the top secret and set of clearances, you know, questions like that would come up. how many adversarial officials, how many communists did you meet with? i don't know, a couple thousand at various events. eight trips to china. how many trips on executive order. you can't remember every one. they are not necessarily that fairious, they are in the corner, discussing how they are going to sabotage the presidency or collude with russia. comey did a disservice dropping that hint that sessions somehow met with the ambassador when we don't know if that was -- if it qualifies. did they actually rub elbows in the entry line or how did this work? we don't know. >> joey, let me throw another
name at you. jared kushner is going to meet this month. what kind of questions do you think he will answer? >> well, first, if i can address something briefly. i didn't get the impression from comey, he was trying to get even with anyone. i got the impression he was testifying to the best of his recollection. if you are asked a question under oath, you have to answer that question. if you have some knowledge and your agency is investigating a third meeting, to leave it out, it subjections yourself to some issue. i don't know if this is just a guy trying to be as truthful as possible. in terms of jared kushner, in terms of the russian investigation, just to be clear, there's nothing wrong. there's nothing inappropriate or inproper with meeting with anybody or russian officials. not disclosing that is the improper thing. why not say something about it? jared kushner, indications you
are asked on a form. right? you are asked on a form about who you met with and spoke to. you omit that. it could be an innocent thing that you decided that, you know, you didn't recollect it at the time or something more significant. i think jared kushner, along with everyone else who is questioned here, the committees are going to want to know. what was the extent of your involvement. what was the nature of communication you had? what did you discuss? was it governmental? private purposes or anything else? at the end of the day, it's about getting to the issue of whether or not there was collusion between the two. they will ask each and every question to get to the bottom line. >> joey jackson, thank you for sticking around with us. i know you are going to stay for a little longer. we appreciate your voices in all of this. thank you, guys. >> with the eyes of the political world, james comey
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but the true secret to his perfection... was a heart, twice the size of an average horse. with all eyes on james comey and the hearing of this week, several political moves may have flown under the radar. >> the house actually voted to kill the dodd-frank fnsz shl regulation. the senate moved for the obamacare appeal. could it be providing a distraction, perhaps perfectly timed? let's bring back eugene scott and kelli torrens.
what do you know about the policy? >> what i know about health care in particular, the senate has been in conversations for weeks behind the scenes trying to figure out if they could reach a compromise that would please the american people and address many of the criticisms that republicans received, related to the bill that the house passed. coming out of meetings that some of our reporters attended, republican lawmakers are tight on issues related to tax credits and medicaid. they said it's possible a vote could come before the senate as soon as july 4th. whether or not that will happen remains to be seen. i imagine some of these other factors happening in the news, such as russia, could impact that. >> the other thing that is being worked on, quietly, but probably because we are distracted are changes to the banking.
this goes back to the recession and who is responsible and things are changing. >> the house passed the bill on thursday, the day comey was testifying. who was doing anything in d.c. on thursday? we, in the media and everyone in the city was watching comey. but, the thing is, it's unlikely to go forward in the senate in its form in the house. i mean, it's a mixed bill. you know, there is some good to it, some bad. the biggest thing is they want to let banks make the kind of risky investments, risky moves that did lead to the recession. it's fine if you want to let banks do that. the problem is, taxpayers had to bail them out. nobody wants to have to, you know, give more taxpayer money to too big to fail banks. we are not going to see this pass in the senate. it's interesting, they want to work with democratic colleagues on a financial reform bill.
it would be a different bill. it makes sense to want to work with democratic colleagues because the republicans have a very, very narrow majority in the house. given all the infighting within the republican party itself, their majority is barely a majority. >> eugene, we have been hearing reports during former director comey's testimony that the president wasn't really listening to it. he was, indeed, behind closed doors in meetings, at round tables talking about, we assume, something like this. in terms of the policy that is going on. is there something to be said for the president -- the president not using this as a distraction, maybe the whole investigation is a distraction and the president really is engrained behind closed doors working on policy and we aren't
seeing it? >> that's what the team wants to communicate and what the voters desire. there was some concern and fear, allegedly, if the president had been watching the hearing, he would have been very much tempted to respond to twitter as he did before sunrise friday when i guess he got his iphone back. the reality is, while he may have not been paying close attention, not only did we see the rnc, we saw donald trump jr. paying attention. perhaps what could be communicated to the president is, if you focus on putting forward the policy that is you told your voters you would move forward, there are other people who take care of the social media wars for you in a way you find sufficient. >> the problem is, this was his week, the president, to focus on infrastructure who weren't focusing every day at all. kelly? >> yeah, it's, you know, great. president trump had the hashtag
infrastructure week on his twitter account. he talked about going to cincinnati. yeah, certainly the most exciting infrastructure week we have seen here in washington. nobody was talking about it. again, infrastructure is one of the issues that there could be been a lot of bipartisan support for. >> it's huge. >> it's a huge problem in the country. voters on both sides want to see aging infrastructure bridges replaced. democrats are always open to more spending on something. this could have been an issue on which the democrats and republicans work together. they are not going to because trump is so controversial and so under fire for all the stuff that's happened with russia and comey. democrats don't want to give him any sort of win at all. >> let me ask you this, if some of this policy, whether it's health care or infrastructure, if any of it seems to be taken care of, there's a vote, something happens that is big
and, i guess people weren't paying attention and all of a sudden, hey, guess what, the vote happened and this is the policy. who might be credited with that? who might take heat for it? how will the president be seen politically, if that happens? >> i think the democrats, quite frankly, will take heat if the reality is republican lawmakers are able to put forward policy they found problematic and they weren't able to bring before the american people and keep it in the media, keep it before the eyes of people who need to be aware of it. there are a lot of lawmakers in washington, d.c. there has to be a system in place that equips people to focus on multiple things and multiple times. the american people care about these things. >> eugene scott, appreciate you being here. >> the ears in the kremlin had to be burning during comey's testimony. so, here's the question.
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some breaking details about the london terror attack. police say the ring leader was free on bail at the time. >> count irterrorism officials say it is part of a wider cracking down on nonterror related crimes to essentially get them off the streets. london police are revealing he tried to rent a seven and a half ton truck instead of the van, suggesting he wanted to inflict more damage. the authorities released photos of 12 inch pink knives the attackers used and have leather
straps attached to them so they wouldn't drop them. six men in custody, one released on bail. there's fallout resonating from the james comey hearing. president trump says he has been vindicated, comey's testimony he says shows no obstruction or collusion with russia, what does russia have to say? >> maybe a lot or maybe nothing to say about all of this. after all, comey did say there was no doubt russia meddled in this election and is trying to undermine everything that america stands for. let's talk about this more. bring in cnn contributor jill dougherty, former moscow bureau chief, how i was going to introduce you. known you that way for a long time. good to have you with us. accusations made by comey were sort of overshadowed by the he said he said thing with the president. russia deliberately interfered with the core of democracy in
america. >> well, russia has been saying all along that's not true. so the immediate reaction coming from peskov, spokesperson for the president, he looks on that statement with distrust. so, you know, no surprise there, martin. but essentially if you look at russian media and coverage here, a lot of it is downplaying it, saying it is not a big deal. one tweet said it was a soap bubble and it is not going to have much effect. >> i mean, that's downplaying it quite a bit. the united states is clearly taking this very, very seriously. who is putin and the rest of his administration, who are they talking to? are they trying to convince the world or speaking to those in russia? >> reporter: it plays on a lot of different bases. essentially if you look at the approach, what they're saying, the enemies of donald trump are
trying to bring him down and enemies of donald trump would be the elite media, in cahoots with the elite people that run the united states. and of course hillary supporters and others and democrats, et cetera. so that's a lot of it. but i think what they're trying to do also is show dysfunction alternate route of american democracy, and that's a broader picture but a big message. >> right. it definitely is looking disorganized these days, but we do go on. jill dougherty, thank you very much. still ahead. is president trump secretly recording conversations in the oval office. a question so many people are asking. if there are tapes, guess what, there are some people who want them and they put a deadline for those to be released. >> not to mention the american people. plus a look at whether there's investigation into the whole issue of obstruction of justice, that's coming at the top of the hour.
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